From the beginning of April 1973 the Mother had become unwell while She was giving blessings. Though She rested for a few days and became a little better, She understood that meeting people and granting special interviews would no longer be possible. Pranab Kumar Bhattacharya, the Mother’s confidant, writes in his Pranab’s Talk on the Mother (pp. 3-4):
‘…on the 20th of May at about 9:30 p.m. when I had just gone out from Her room to the terrace after Champaklalji had come in, I was suddenly called to see what had happened to the Mother. I found Her extremely restless, a bit dejected and, I must say, annoyed with Herself. At least that was what I saw, what I felt. She said She didn’t have any control over Her body. From then, She completely stopped seeing people…’
On the previous day, that is, 19 May 1973, the Mother gave Her last interview to Satprem. Today, we take the opportunity of sharing with you the last interview of the Mother.
With warm regards,
[Sujata gives Mother a pale yellow, slightly golden hibiscus with a red heart. Mother holds the flower without seeing it.]
The Mother: What is it?
Satprem: It’s “Ananda in the physical.”
The Mother: We badly need it!
Satprem: Yes, Mother!
The Mother: And you?
Satprem: I was thinking about something Sri Aurobindo wrote…. In “Savitri,” he clearly says, “Almighty powers are shut in Nature’s cells.”
The Mother: In… ?
Satprem: In Nature’s cells.
The Mother: Ohh! … Oh, that is interesting! Almighty powers.
The Mother: He doesn’t say anything else?
Satprem: No, not on that subject…. The consciousness of the cells seems to be awakened but not the power.
The Mother: You said the consciousness of the cells is … missing? No?
Satprem: No, the consciousness is there. The consciousness of the cells is awakened, but the power isn’t.
The Mother: Ah! … You said “awakened”?
Satprem: Yes, Mother. Because had the power been awakened, there wouldn’t be any weakness in your body.
The Mother: No.
Satprem: But it is there, Sri Aurobindo says it clearly: it is there, inside, within the very cells.
The Mother: Yes, there’s no need to seek elsewhere.
Satprem: But how to awaken it?
The Mother: Through faith, our faith. If one knows that and has trust…. But you see, my physical, my body is deteriorating very rapidly—what could stop it from deteriorating?
Satprem: Mother, I do not believe it is deterioration—it’s not. My feeling is that you are physically being led to a point of such complete powerlessness that the most complete Power will be forced to awaken….
The Mother: Ah! … you’re right.
Satprem: That Power will then be compelled to come out.
The Mother: Or else I could … I could leave this body, no?
Satprem: Ah, no, Mother! No, Mother, it must be done now.
Satprem: It must be done now…. You see, I am certain it’s not disintegration, not at all. It is not disintegration.
(Mother nods approvingly)
Satprem: You know, I have always seen that the other pole springs up from the most extreme opposite. So the supreme Power must spring up from the sort of apparent powerlessness you are in. By no means is it a disintegration.
The Mother: What would you like now?
Satprem: To stay with you, Mother, naturally.
The Mother: Like this?
(Mother takes Satprem’s hands)
Satprem: Yes, Mother.
(Mother plunges in for about ten minutes)
The Mother: For me, you see, the question is food. More and more I find it impossible to eat. Can this body live without food?
Satprem: Mother, I truly believe that you are being led to the point where something else will be forced to manifest.
The Mother: I can’t hear.
Satprem: I think you are led to the point—the point of helplessness or powerlessness where something else will be forced to manifest.
The Mother: Ah…. Maybe.
Satprem: As long as that point … of impossibility has not been reached….
The Mother: Oh, it’s almost the point of impossibility.
Satprem: Yes, Mother, yes, that’s also what I feel. I feel you’re reaching that point, and something else is going to emerge.
Satprem: It is not at all the end; quite the contrary, it will soon be the beginning.
The Mother: I was told that the beginning would take place when I am a hundred; but that’s a long way off!
Satprem: No, Mother, I don’t think it will take that long. I don’t think so. I really don’t think so. Another type of functioning is going to set in. But the end of the old has to be reached, and that end is the terrible part!
The Mother: Oh … I really don’t want to say. I don’t want to insist, but … truly…
Satprem: Yes, Mother. I understand, Mother, I understand, yes….
The Mother: The consciousness is clearer, stronger than it has ever been, and I look like an old….
Satprem: Yes, Mother, it’s “normal,” if I may say so. We’re going, you’re going to pass into something else, I sense it—it isn’t faith in me that speaks, it’s something else deep down, that understands.
Satprem: I don’t speak out of “faith,” Mother; it’s really like something telling me: that’s the way.
The Mother: What time is it?
Satprem: Five to eleven…. Good-bye, Mother.
11 Replies to “The Mother’s Last Interview”
To stay with you, Mother, naturally,,,,, this line & the whole conversation ot lumps in my throat………..
Ma how hard you worked for us and how emmensely you loved us. Just bless all of us that we can only strengthen our Faith on you and work only for you. Love you Mother
thanks for sharing the holy moment.
My dear Anurag,
Because of you we all are able to know all these interviews SWEET MOTHER gave—a GREAT GREAT WORK you are performing — many many many thanks to you—I pray to the MASTER & MOTHER that they ever and forever pour down special blessings to you for yours works to accomplish.
Faith still makes us feel that she is alive and with us, though it might not always be true. It is always a state of mind and expression and what we feel on that exact / particular moment. The significance of lotus is never found only by analyzing the secrets of the mud in which it grows (SA)… it is something more as was the Mother..
The thin line that divides immortality and the mortality brings into focus the difference between limitless craving and importance of faith and love.Mother has always made me to feel awakened.Her blessings have no limits.
I am thankful to you for exposing us to something unique.Thank you.
I love Mother.
For over maybe 3 years Iam unsuccessfully lobbying to secure Protection to the the Samadhi of Mother and Sri Aurobindo.
Sujatha had written a note in 1988 on this matter to me.
But so after though many agree, the Ashram Trustees headed by a dcotor is flatly refusing to concede even minimum secuity at Ashram gates, such as a metal detector.
The note from Sujatha was in response to a letter- where I described Mother alive inside the Samadhi and the place was vulnerable to terrorists.
I was screaming in that vision, “How can you do this to Them”?
Today Terrorism is os ubiquitous you dont need any further expalanation.
I have a Petition that is with me.
Those who truly love Mother, and our Lord, must obtain this from me below at this email address, and sign it and forward it to the most stupid Trustees in the world of any organisation.
I then went around, quietly, sent one copy to Francois Gautier.
Didnt get even a reply or acknowledgement.
Neither from him nor Trustees.
Shradallu Ranade alone fully agreed.
And another gentleman Trustee.
Manojdas Gupta tells me ‘he is helpless on this matter. The Commitee has to decide’.
What kind of Commitee will take 3 years to reply?
Or act on this common sense thing?
Big people u see cant afford to reply to nobodys.
I didnt go to court, didnt post online, so far becos I know Mother disapproves such ways.
I would appreciate if her children take up this cause of Security measures for Mother’s ‘Tomb’ permanantly, since there is a work of Transformation still going on from there.
I said ‘from’ there not ‘there’ because its already done for them.
It is now the perilous bridge that she must cross in Time.
Cant we make it safer and a little perilous instead of throwing open the Ashram gates at a time when the Indian Mujahadeen has vowed to strike Hindu worship places?
I simply cant tell you how much insanity I see all around in this matter.
Can you show me just 1 place of pilgriamge, one VVIP left open like that?
Are our Mother’s resting place so unimportant? or less deserving even minimum security measures?
Kindly obtain copies of petition, and forward it.
I cant host publicly since Mother wont like that.
Dear Mr ANURAG,
I wish to join in Overman Founddation for The Mother’s Work.
Kishore Kumar Behera
Why is the source of this last interview not clearly mentioned? It is from the The Mother’s Agenda, vol. 13, pp. 256-259 compiled and edited by Satprem. This record has been available for many years.
Makarand R. Paranjape
Because they stole it from Satprem’s work, like they did from the very day The Mother left. They even dared to issue they own fake Mother’s Agenda (compilation of passages from Satprem’s books). It’s all described in The Notebooks of Apocalypse.